Aparición de jesús en la meada de un perro.

Yo estoy de acuerdo en que: mientras no se metan con uno… debemos de respetar las creencias de los demás, pero… ¿porque nos la ponen tan difícil?.

 

Esos si son premios, y no chingaderas.

Human-man

Y así sucesivamente…

La Apuesta de Pascal.

Uno de los argumentos mas usados por los creyentes en debates es el conocido como “La apuesta de Pascal”, planteada por el matemático Francés Blasie Pascal.

Prácticamente se basa en apostar a lo seguro, tomando la posición más beneficiosa posible en cuanto a la existencia de dios, y se plantea de la siguientes maneras:

“Si Dios existe y crees en él, irás al cielo; pero si no crees en él, irás al infierno. Si Dios no existe, tanto el que cree como el que no cree, no perderán ni ganarán nada. Así que la concusión es que es mejor estar del lado seguro, esto es, es mejor creer en Dios.”

En realidad parecería una posición bastante cómoda, pero visto desde un punto de vista distinto al católico, asume puntos que en realidad no son veraces y es fácilmente rebatible.

1.- Asume que creer en dios es una decisión que se puede tomar en un momento determinado, como si después de escuchar su argumento se pudiera decir honestamente – tienes razón, de ahora en adelante creeré en dios – Cuando en realidad es una convicción, o más bien una conclusión que se lleva a cabo después de un proceso razonado.

2.- Inclusive aún si nos tragáramos ese argumento y decidiéramos ir a misa todos los domingos, comulgar, rendirle pleitesía a los curas, discriminar a los homosexuales y las madres solteras, condenar a las mujeres por creerse con derecho a decidir sobre su cuerpo, tener los hijos que dios nos mande, etc. Si honestamente no se cree en dios, tendríamos que suponer que dios es lo suficientemente estúpido para no darse cuenta que tratamos de engañarlo tomando todas esas actitudes sin en realidad creer en el.

3.- Siendo no creyentes daría lo mismo apostar por creer en cualquier dios, a fin de cuentas, todos afirman que su dios es el único. Y que pasaría si estuviéramos equivocados y apostamos por adorar al dios que no es el verdadero, y al morir nos encontramos en presencia de un dios, igual de celoso, mezquino, rencoroso, sangriento, cruel, intransigente, racista, misógino, discriminativo, como el que se describe en la biblia, que nos acusa de haber adorado toda la vida a otro dios… estaríamos fritos.

4.- Asume que al adorar a dios no perdemos nada, cuando en realidad si contamos el dinero y el tiempo que mucha gente dedica a adorar a dios, en lugar de dedicarlo a cosas mas productivas como el trabajo o la convivencia familiar. Y al final resulta que no existe, pues es una cantidad de dinero y tiempo considerables tirados a la basura. Por lo que para nada es una situación de “salir sin pérdidas”.

Por lo tanto tenemos una apuesta bastante mal sustentada, la única forma en que tomar esta decisión fuera una situación “sin nada que perder y todo que ganar” es si en realidad honestamente lo sintieras, lo cual paradójicamente haría innecesario tomar esa decisión.

Pascal puede ser el padre de la informática, pero para debatir teología dejaba mucho que desear… esperemos que ese no haya sido su único argumento.

Otro con su propia versión de la Biblia.

Four women die in shooting at Collier fitness center

Gunman also reported dead at scene

Tuesday, August 04, 2009

By Amy Schaarsmith, Cindi Lash, Dan Majors, Annie Tubbs and Michael A. Fuoco, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Bill Wade/Post-Gazette

A man carrying a duffel bag walked into a rear door of the L.A. Fitness center in Collier this evening and opened fire, killing at least four people and wounding as many as 10.

Allegheny County police said they believe the gunman was among the dead.

The wounded were transported to UPMC Mercy, Allegheny General and St.Clair hospitals.

UPMC Mercy spokeswoman Linda Ross said her facility received five of them — all with multiple gunshot wounds who initially were listed in critical condition. Three later were upgraded to serious condition.

At St. Clair Hospital, spokesman Rich Seiber said three women were brought there with bullet wounds. One of them died of a chest wound at 8:54 p.m.

The other two, in their 20s and 30s, were in good and stable condition, one with a shoulder wound and the other with a leg wound.

Stacey Falk, 26, of Bridgeville, said she was in an aerobics room about 8:15 p.m with 30 to 40 other women when a short, clean-shaven man, dressed in workout clothes, walked in with a duffel bag. He stood in a corner near a racquetball court for a moment, put the bag down and turned off the lights in the room.

Then shots rang out, and people began falling to the floor. Ms. Falk said she briefly got a look at what appeared to be a short-barrel rifle.

“Girls were just ducking behind each other. All I could hear were gunshots and girls screaming, screaming. Girls were running into each other. We were using each other for protection.

“There was blood on the floor and casings all over the place. I didn’t know it was real until I saw the casings on the floor.”

At a press conference late tonight, Allegheny County Police Superintendent Charles Moffat said the gunman had two weapons.

“He walked right into the room as if he knew exactly where he was going,” Superintendent Moffat said.

Detectives were working to identify the dead and the wounded.

“As you can imagine, at a fitness club, they don’t have their IDs on them, people don’t know who they are,” he said.

Collier officers were called to the fitness center at 8:16 p.m., and the shooting had already ended. Police said the gunfire was contained to an aerobics room, where detectives recovered the two guns. Three bodies remained inside the room this morning. The fourth victim died en route to St. Clair Hospital.

Neither Superintendent Moffatt nor Collier Police Chief Thomas Devin could offer a motive for the shooting, saying the investigation was just beginning.

“I’ve never seen anything quite like this,” the superintendent said.

Ashley Ogordowski, 23, of Muse, Washington County, said she was in the aerobics room when the man started shooting.

“I was crouched to the side with a girl who was not my friend … shoot… shoot… shoot…” she said, sobbing.

She said she was told that several people had been wounded, including a friend of hers.

“All I want to do now is find out what happened to my friend.”

The scene outside the fitness center was chaotic as dozens of ambulances, police cars and other emergency vehicles converged on the area.

Tony Williams said his daughter, Melinda, 22, told him that she was in the aerobics area “when he came in with a bag and started shooting.” He couldn’t say what kind of weapon the gunman used.

His daughter, he said, was shot in the knee and fell to the floor. A friend helped her to safety.

“She’s going to be OK,” the distraught father said.

Many of those who got out of the gym safely credited the fitness center staff with calmly steering people toward the exits.

After the shooting, scores of those people milled about the parking lot outside the fitness center, which has been taped off and was inaccessible to those who left personal property inside.

Lauren Dooley, 26, was inside the center when the shooting broke out on the first floor.

Ms. Dooley was on a treadmill, listening to her iPOD.

“I saw people flying off the treadmills, hitting the ground” for cover, Ms. Dooley said. “We crawled through the fire escape and I sprinted out the back.”

She said she heard 12 to 15 shots, possibly coming from an aerobics room.

A man who was playing racquetball said the scene inside was total chaos.

“It was panic,” said Perry Calabro, 53, of Bridgeville. “Then we realized it was gunfire. Once the shooting started, everybody started running.”

He counted about eight shots.

Ms. Ross at UPMC Mercy said stress-management professionals from Western Psychiatric Institute and Clinic were dispatched to the center to counsel families of the victims.

A spokesman for the LA Fitness chain, Simon R. Barker, issued a statement from the company late tonight.

“Each of us in the LA Fitness family are shocked and saddened by the senseless acts of violence that took place. . . this evening. Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims, their families and friends. We are working with local law enforcement as they conduct their investigation.”

More details in tomorrow’s Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

To share information about the shootings, call 412-263-1601 or e-mail the news desk at localnews@post-gazette.com

First published on August 4, 2009 at 8:41 pm

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09216/988585-100.stm#ixzz0NKdmxeOR

El día de ayer, George Sodini de 48 años, entró en el gimnasio LA fitness en las afueras de Pittsburg Pensilvania, llevaba dos pistolas, entró a la sala donde un grupo de mujeres se ejercitaban, apagó las luces y comenzó a disparar indiscriminadamente contra ellas, luego se suicidó.

Heidi Obermier de 46 años, Elizabeth Gannon de 49 y Jody Billingsley de 39 años murieron en el ataque. Otras 15 personas resultaron heridas, entre ellas su exnovia.

El ataque fue planeado por varios meses, tal como se lee en su blog y diario personal en línea; ya había realizado un intento en Enero pasado pero en sus propias palabras “se acobardó” (chickened out).

En su última entrada del 3 de Agosto, escribió un párrafo verdaderamente perturbador:

Maybe soon, I will see God and Jesus. At least that is what I was told. Eternal life does NOT depend on works. If it did, we will all be in hell. Christ paid for EVERY sin, so how can I or you be judged BY GOD for a sin when the penalty was ALREADY paid. People judge but that does not matter. I was reading the Bible and The Integrity of God beginning yesterday, because soon I will see them.

Tal ves pronto veré a dios y Jesús, al menos, eso es lo que me han dicho, la vida eterna no depende de las obras, si así fuera, todos estaríamos en el infierno. Cristo pagó por TODOS los pecados, así que, como vas a ser juzgado por dios por un pecado, cuando el castigo ya ha sido pagado. La gente juzga, pero no importa. He estado leyendo la biblia y la integridad de dios desde ayer, porque pronto lo veré.

Con tanta gente muriendo por mal interpretaciones de textos religiosos, ¿no sería tiempo ya de que el autor enviara una versión mas clara y por medio de una fuente fidedigna?.